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Thiagodalbo: I am not sure I am grasping what your point is. Care to explain to this naive foreigner? With pleasure.:) gave me the impression that you were complaining because, since GOG doesn't support BRL, you were forced to buy your games in USD and hence to pay a conversion fee.

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I didn't realize your problem was your inability to get a credit card, and in fact I assumed you had other alternatives available to you: debit cards, pre-paid cards, PayPal, etc. (which incidentally seems to be true, judging by DaCostaBR's replies). So, since I thought you were complaining about the currency conversion fees and you were intentionally disregarding the favourable regional pricing you enjoy in Brazil, I replied with a bitter remark.

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Thiagodalbo: (By the way, GOG managers read these topics?) I really couldn't tell. But certainly many in the GOG staff do, and I like to think they do (or at least have the means to) pass these kind of complaints/suggestions/observations on to them. PS: And of course, I agree with you it would be beneficial for both Brazilian gamers and GOG if they supported BRL. But be careful with what you wish.

Whenever GOG adds BRL as an accepted currency (and they eventually will, judging by that job opening MightyPinecone mentioned earlier), they will do just like with the other currencies and will periodically update the prices in BRL according to the current exchange rate between USD and BRL. This means that, should the BRL get weaker with respect to the USD, you'll see all the prices go up (in BRL) in order to reflect the new exchange rate between currencies. Now, Steam doesn't work this way: the way I understand it, they fixed the exchange rates some time in the past, and they pretend exchange rates haven't changed a bit ever since then. So, in the hypothetical scenario I just described, you'll find that the same game will be significantly cheaper in Steam than here in GOG(.). (.) Incidentally, this is exactly what's happening now between USD and CAD.

Up until GOG added a new batch of supported currencies (CAD among them), a week wouldn't pass without a couple of Canadian Goggers complaining about the conversion fees they were forced to pay as a result of GOG not supporting CAD. GOG finally decided to support CAD, and what do we have now?

Canadians complaining about 'being ripped off' (sic) because the prices in CAD on GOG are quite higher than in Steam. Muntdefems: I supose most of it was a misundertanding. I have a debit card. I can't use it to buy. Apparently I can't use something other then credit cards on PayPal. I can go after a card that allows me to pay with dollars. But I might as well drop this and go elsewhere.

Yeah, my position changed. I can get a new card. Still a hassle, but possible now. It looks like you are unhappy with the disadvantage you have compared to others. You live in Canada, right?

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DaCostaBR said enough about regional pricing. But I insist it is fair considering the taxes you have to pay in Brazil (one of the highest in the world) minimum wage, currency worth. If you were used to see games worth 3 or 4 times the worth you see now, you wouldn't bother buying it. No wonder piracy was (or still is) so common in Brazil. Having an original game when I was a kid was like holding the holy grail, it was the chosen one, the rarest jewel.

R$200 was the price of most original games. Sometimes I think it's strange when an american say 'It costs the full price of 60 dollars! It has to be worth it'.

I wish the most expensive game I could buy were to cost R$60 (sure can't compare currencies like that but the brazillian minimum wage is even lower then the american so we earn less and had to pay more). Anyway When I see a store on the internet that only accepts dollars I think 'Well, I am not buying here', and I wish it weren't so. Still feel a bit awkward to buy a credit card just to buy games on GOG. I wouldn't need to use it for anything else. I know just a few people who would ever bother to buy things with dollars on the internet. I wanted to add GOG to my alternatives instead of relying on the same store I use, and also there are some games that really interest me that I don't see on the other store.

I never meant to complain. Just express the wish of the part of the consumers I am included. If that means it's a complaint, than it is complaint. Lol Most people wouldn't even bother making a topic over this, but I insisted because I like this store. I would wait until they add real before I make a purchase, though.

I don't have a reason to buy games here immediately. Thiagodalbo: It looks like you are unhappy with the disadvantage you have compared to others. You live in Canada, right? I'm from Western Europe, where not only we don't have advantageous prices, but we systematically have to pay more than the orignal price in USD for them. Yeah, I'm aware of GOG's fair price package, and it's pretty nice of GOG to do so, but it's the principle that counts.

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And the principle stinks: flat pricing used to be one of GOG's foundational pillars (alongside DRM-freedom), but it was removed recently under the excuse that it would only affect a small subset of GOG's catalog, and that it would allow for nothing short of a flood of AAA titles. Fast forward to the present, and what do we have? Almost every single game that gets released here, no matter how big or small, comes along with a regional price. And while during the last 12 months there have been a good deal of spectacular or unexpected releases, most of them have been (good) old games, but I'm yet to see a day-one AAA release here. What's even worse, there was at least a case (I'd swear it was either Pony Island or Undertale) where the dev revealed that when asked for prices by GOG, he/she replied with a flat price and that GOG explicitly asked for regional pricing (!!!). PS: Just to avoid further confusion, I'll say I'm aware that after all I'm quite privileged, and that things are much tougher for people in many other parts of the world. I'm totally cool with discounts for selected countries and regions with lower incomes, I really am (although, as I've said before in this forum, I totally plan on taking full advantage of the system should I ever travel to Russia or South America for work:P).

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But what I'm not cool AT ALL is with having to pay more, only just because. Even if I was filthy rich (which of course I'm not), why the hell should I have to pay for a game more than what the author decided it's worth? There's nothing that can justify that.

HunchBluntley: He already made it clear that it was the currency, not the price, that he was concerned with. Not sure what the point of all that ^ was, but I hope it made you feel better, getting that out of your system.:) I know. I initially misunderstood him, but I still felt like ranting about regional pricing, especially after thiagodalbo said he thought it was fair. And no, it isn't and it never will. Unless we end up in a global, Orwellian society where private companies have access to all of our private data, and they know exactly what we own and what we earn so they can individually taylor their prices to each and every one of our cases (and frankly in that case the least of my concerns would be what I have to pay for digital videogames).