Well, unfortunately wind power is not the answer. It too is highly wasteful, the production of windmills is labour intensive and comes with a high carbon footprint, requires a lot of maintenance, takes up a lot of room, and are actually pretty inefficient, certainly not efficient enough to cover our ever rising energy needs. Solar power has up until very recently been an environmental issue in itself due to the materials required for the panels. Though there is some wonderful new technology emerging (roads with embedded solar panels, bloody genius) and new ultrafine panels. Again, not super efficient, but much much better.

Geothermal is certainly a good alternative. The real answer is of course, fusion reactors, such as Tokomak. We are still struggling getting more out than we put in, but they are highly highly efficient in theory if stabilised, and there is a much lower risk of environmental damage than even wind power. No long half life waste (under 10 years), and the reaction is not a chain reaction, so no runaway meltdown risk. Fusion is the real answer to our energy needs. Unfortunately we just aren't there yet. I think science will get us there though, within our lifetimes I think.

Dust Layer wrote:What do you think about this? I think there is a LOT of truth in this. One of the best things I did this year was read 'Confessions of an economic hit-man', a great tip from msl here on subsekt. It explained a LOT of what has been going on in the world for the last 50 years. (and combined with some superb history sources like Geert Mak's 'In Europe' make a great source of insight) And most of what this guy is saying just matches that story.

I never even thought about the refugee problem as a possible weapon to destabalize countries. Fucking genius plan once you think about it. Jordanneke wrote:Dude, In all seriousness, having a large family of my own (3 boys and a wife) has completely changed my world, and the outlook I have on it. I mean, 90% of my energy is focussed on bring up my kids to be decent, successful people.

Everything else fades into background noise. In many ways it has simplified my life.

I no longer spend hours agonising over the things which you do. Which I used to do too, but I simply don't have the time. Probably, but that's nature for you. My Family is the most important thing. Does that make you feel happy inside? I have said to myself recently that I need to stop reading about these issues and saying to myself that 'as long as my family is safe I don't care what happens' is selfish and doesn't make me feel good about it.

It's not enough. The majority of the population in the western world just don't see that they're minds are being force feed so much bullshit, like the news, shitty tv shows, work, advertising to keep them distracted. We've all been sucked in at some point in our lives. But this war has been building up for years now and since the public rejected the UK's involvement in bombing syria a few years ago, there has been a steady increase in propaganda. We're going in no matter what, and we will be at war with russia soon enough. Ashley BORG wrote: Yeah the thing I noticed being a Designer was how quickly the Paris incident was visually branded.

Modern day solidarity takes shape in logos, projections on buildings and celebrities adding their valuable insight to a situation. Music unites, Sport unites!!! As Pelecaras said this shit is pretty much life on a weekly scale for some poor fucks. It seems as though people only give a damn when the situation feels close to home.

Or actually maybe I'm wrong on that last bit, and there are plenty who do give a damn, and are doing something, but the media outlets don't see them as newsworthy until there's a relevant catastrophy. Too right my friend, it seems we live in a brand/logo saturated world and it even extends to situations like Paris. I for one think it just fuels a population of sheeple.

We truly live in the time of 'the cult of the idiot'. I believe that most of us are asleep. We must remember that the media is not free, they too have an agenda, we only see what they want us to see. We bomb the shit out of countries every day, spending billions of pounds, KILLING thousands of INNOCENT people, yet unless you take time to find this information for yourself, you only get the one-sided picture.

What happened in Paris is tragic but it is a way of life for a lot of people in this world. We have to ask, does every life matter or just western lives? Read 'Confessions of an economic hit-man'. Seriously, it's totally an eye-opener. Jordanneke wrote:Dude, In all seriousness, having a large family of my own (3 boys and a wife) has completely changed my world, and the outlook I have on it. I mean, 90% of my energy is focussed on bring up my kids to be decent, successful people. Everything else fades into background noise.

In many ways it has simplified my life. I no longer spend hours agonising over the things which you do. Which I used to do too, but I simply don't have the time.

Probably, but that's nature for you. My Family is the most important thing. Does that make you feel happy inside? I have said to myself recently that I need to stop reading about these issues and saying to myself that 'as long as my family is safe I don't care what happens' is selfish and doesn't make me feel good about it.

It's not enough. If I'm absolutely completely honest, I care what happens to people, but it's only the personal stories that affect me deeply. I mean the holocaust was fucking horrible, but reading personal accounts makes me sick. Saw an African immigrant lady missing both her hands, that shit fucked me up. Read the autobiography of the guy from the Cro-Mags, at one point he describes what happened to a character called Bobby K, what his dad did to him when he was six. That fucked me up. The less personal things are, the less I empathise.

Does that make me a cunt, probably, it also makes me human. In the long run though, if I dwell on all the misfortune, inequality and cruelty in this world, then I'm quite certain I'll be clinically depressed. Things cross my mind, then I do something to try and counter-act in a positive way. Individually we are generally nice. In groups we are absolute cunts, I believe by the beastly process of evolution on a savage planet. I mean the natural world is fucking savage, from the microbe upwards.

We are the CEO's of nature, and like all CEO's we didn't get there by being caring, warm and fuzzy. So, mostly it's a 'meh' from me 95% of the time. And honestly, I'm fine with that. But I can understand that some people are wracked with personal anguish, and others DGAF. So perhaps even despite all your angst ridden music, you are a far more caring soul than most! Surface wrote:France then drops bombs over Syria. Good decision?.

God damn fucking right it's a good decision. Sure there's a load of other shit that went down to get us where we are, but one thing is for certain, ISIS (ISIL, IS or whatever you want to call the cunts) need to be stopped.

There's no negotiating with them. They don't want to sit down and have a nice little chat with the powers that be, they just want to see the world following their fucked up interpretation of Islam and will happily exterminate anyone that doesn't comply.

So yeah, bomb the cunts I say. Sadly though airstrikes won't be enough. The pussies surround themselves with civilians and hide amoungst them, so sooner or later it will require boots on the ground, and lets be honest, the countries in the area simply don't have the will to do what needs to be done and they'll soon be calling out to the west to fill that roll. Anyway, once that's been done, the western world seriously need to start looking at their foreign policy. You know that we created this so called army? We created them, we fund them.

We sell them arms. Look at the top weapons dealers in the world, that's where the problem is. Maybe we should stop doing that and stop controlling the region and we wouldnt have these issues.

Jordanneke wrote:Sorry, I don't buy this whole conspiracy, sheeple, mainstream media,'Them'/'They' controlling us like puppets, false flags, soylent green, 'do your own research', university of google, keeping us dumb by controlling our desires, fluoridating our water, chem-trails in the sky, MMR autism, faked moon landings, tower 7 blowing up, seeing the truth, Illuminati. The main problem with the internet is that it gives equal weight to each source of information. This can be as innocuous as people reading nutty conspiracy sites, to people doing stupid shit like not getting their kids vaccinated. All because many people are not able to think critically, and decide what's most likely to be true having evaluated sources. That is a whole lot of stuff you're throwing together there Jordan.

I find it amazing that for someone so intelligent and reasonable you fail to see what is rather obvious. Now I'll happily agree you know lots more about nuclear energy, but please don't tell me you do NOT see how mainstream media is trying to control us like puppets. You can just look it up who owns which newspapers and which tv channels, I've been living very happily without cable tv for 20 years now, but via the internet it's still visible everywhere. The only nice part is that via internet you can also find all those other sides of the story. It just takes hours and hours of reading up everywhere, and proper digging. I'll give the Greek crisis as an example because I know you read some of my words in that topic and I hope you can see I do read a lot about some things if I'm seriously interested in them. ALL the mainstream media was saying was: the Greeks are lazy, the Greeks took our personal money (though it was from banks, NOT from us).

Making us all believe they deserved it and had it coming. Now of course there was corruption, but in what government wasn't there any corruption?

Meanwhile, a few of the richest corporations on earth took over everything interesting in Greece. Us Belgians are paying with our tax mony for Dexia though. And we'll still pay for it for years to come. But nobody is talking about that any more in the media, right? Just call it 'Belfius' and we'll all be fine. Also, using words like 'the university of google' is a bit implying that everyone that ever uses the internet to do research and learn something are not using a serious resource (and as if universities are golden places of eternal wisdom, I've been to one for 5 years myself, they sure as fuck aren't ) Universities can be controlled just as much to give you a one-sided view btw, I can tell you a personal story about breast-feeding just as an example, but I'm hopelessly trying to stay on topic a bit. And in the US many of the most famous universities are in fact controlled in an economic way.

You've (partly) come to subsekt for the good production info, no? Why not to some other place of the internet?

You are capable enough to judge subsekt as a better source of info than say mnml.nl, no? The internet is massive, and of course there is a LOT of cheap-ass shit inbetween the good and well researched stuff.

But that doesn't mean you can't just use some common sense, and research a bit more on everything you discover. The internet isn't massively sensored (or at least not over here) and controlled like the mainstream media, so naturally, pretty much everyone saying a different opinion about things would be saying it/publishing it on the internet.

Is it that mainstream media is trying to control us? Or is it that the individuals and teams of people working within the mainstreams media companies are a clever bunch and they know exactly what the majority of people in society want.

They know that a lot of people actually feed off negativity and have a fascination and draw towards disaster/shock/excitement/sensation. So they give us just that day after day. That's not manipulation/control - that's giving the public what they want.

It may be a chicken and the egg thing. If audiences, the general public changed and didn't want that mainstream media would have to change the their content too. As we've seen recently in British politics. Newspapers change almosty weekly against this politician, for that one - going against their usual values because Corbyn is popular one week and hated the next or Cameron is. In a weird way isn't it the people that are manipulating themselves?! If that makes sense. Dust Layer wrote:We live in a global conspiracy.

I agree with you. It's only a conspiracy before it happens. Afterwards though it becomes fact.

People forget that part. People don't know enough about history and people don't read enough books. People once didn't believe the earth was round because it went in against their common sense. They just couldn't grasp the concept. People don't want to believe they are just puppets, especially nowadays with our whole society completely over-focused on 'me me ME'!!

Koichi wrote:Is it that mainstream media is trying to control us? Or is it that the individuals and teams of people working within the mainstreams media companies are a clever bunch and they know exactly what the majority of people in society want. They know that a lot of people actually feed off negativity and have a fascination and draw towards disaster/shock/excitement/sensation. So they give us just that day after day. That's not manipulation/control - that's giving the public what they want. It may be a chicken and the egg thing.

If audiences, the general public changed and didn't want that mainstream media would have to change the their content too. As we've seen recently in British politics. Newspapers change almosty weekly against this politician, for that one - going against their usual values because Corbyn is popular one week and hated the next or Cameron is. In a weird way isn't it the people that are manipulating themselves?! If that makes sense. Yes and no, there is the more entertainment side and there is the important side.

I think what you are talking about is more entertainment than the part where they only show us the info that they want to show us. I've learned this one example in university ( ) almost 20 years ago: during the 1st Gulf war, they put all the journalists in one big camp, about 300kms away from the front lines. And they only took a very select group of 'approved' journalists and gave them the news that they wanted the world to see. So we never got to see any proper footage of what actually happened there.

This was how long ago? You seriously think things will have improved by now? Divide and conquer/rule has been used for centuries as a tactic, and bread and games is an old Roman expression. 'here we are now, entertain us' I see your point if you look at say National Geographic tv: 'horror storms', 'mega-crocks', etc etc. Jordanneke wrote:Sorry, I don't buy this whole conspiracy, sheeple, mainstream media,'Them'/'They' controlling us like puppets, false flags, soylent green, 'do your own research', university of google, keeping us dumb by controlling our desires, fluoridating our water, chem-trails in the sky, MMR autism, faked moon landings, tower 7 blowing up, seeing the truth, Illuminati.

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The main problem with the internet is that it gives equal weight to each source of information. This can be as innocuous as people reading nutty conspiracy sites, to people doing stupid shit like not getting their kids vaccinated. All because many people are not able to think critically, and decide what's most likely to be true having evaluated sources.

That is a whole lot of stuff you're throwing together there Jordan. I find it amazing that for someone so intelligent and reasonable you fail to see what is rather obvious. Now I'll happily agree you know lots more about nuclear energy, but please don't tell me you do NOT see how mainstream media is trying to control us like puppets. You can just look it up who owns which newspapers and which tv channels, I've been living very happily without cable tv for 20 years now, but via the internet it's still visible everywhere. The only nice part is that via internet you can also find all those other sides of the story. It just takes hours and hours of reading up everywhere, and proper digging.

I'll give the Greek crisis as an example because I know you read some of my words in that topic and I hope you can see I do read a lot about some things if I'm seriously interested in them. ALL the mainstream media was saying was: the Greeks are lazy, the Greeks took our personal money (though it was from banks, NOT from us). Making us all believe they deserved it and had it coming. Now of course there was corruption, but in what government wasn't there any corruption? Meanwhile, a few of the richest corporations on earth took over everything interesting in Greece.

Us Belgians are paying with our tax mony for Dexia though. And we'll still pay for it for years to come. But nobody is talking about that any more in the media, right? Just call it 'Belfius' and we'll all be fine. Also, using words like 'the university of google' is a bit implying that everyone that ever uses the internet to do research and learn something are not using a serious resource (and as if universities are golden places of eternal wisdom, I've been to one for 5 years myself, they sure as fuck aren't ) Universities can be controlled just as much to give you a one-sided view btw, I can tell you a personal story about breast-feeding just as an example, but I'm hopelessly trying to stay on topic a bit. And in the US many of the most famous universities are in fact controlled in an economic way.

You've (partly) come to subsekt for the good production info, no? Why not to some other place of the internet? You are capable enough to judge subsekt as a better source of info than say mnml.nl, no? The internet is massive, and of course there is a LOT of cheap-ass shit inbetween the good and well researched stuff. But that doesn't mean you can't just use some common sense, and research a bit more on everything you discover.

The internet isn't massively sensored (or at least not over here) and controlled like the mainstream media, so naturally, pretty much everyone saying a different opinion about things would be saying it/publishing it on the internet. We'll have to disagree about certain things. We'll both inhabit our relative la-la land with respect to the others opinion Although I did qualify with the following. I mean Murdoch is a right wing cunt. Being aware of that allows me to understand that the news that comes out of his media is likely to have bias and not be the entire truth.

Basic high school History lesson skills. There was a story the other day that the editor of the Telegraph or The Times wouldn't run a story as it put one of their biggest advertisers in a bad light. Does that mean that the 'mainstream media' all lie and they shouldn't be trusted? Well they shouldn't be trusted 100%, but I'd put that figure at about 99% (If it's the Sun or the Mail, i'll reduce that figure to 10%).

I think education is the key to all this. This would stop a lot of mis-informed shit being spouted as fact among the illitterati. Proper evaluative skills are something that not enough people posses. And I stand by my comment with regards to the 'university of google'.

I would reckon that most people who 'research shit' wouldn't know a peer reviewed publication if it hit them in the face. I was not trying to be elitist, suggesting that only those who've had higher education are qualified to have correct opinions. You misinterpreted my message. Which is very easy to do online.

Planar wrote:Just so you're not fighting the tide, I agree with you on everything in this thread Jordan. Think you've had a blinder and sum up how I feel about a lot of this stuff. Ha ha, cheers Planar, at least I'm not the only one. A family member of mine was worried when the MMR autism scare came out, which was understandable at the time. But reading a bit more into it, and with hindsight, it became apparent that the 'Dr' who fabricated the study, was the only person shouting about it. The rest of the medical profession thought it was so absurd that they took too long to respond. People who knew nothing about how vaccines worked, or indeed how peer reviewed studies worked, suddenly gave more weight to Andrew Wakefield's study, than to the opposing view of pretty much everyone else in the medical profession.

Coupled with the fact that very few members of the public understand causation and correlation, statistics, or even the difference between percentage increase and absolute increase, basically stopped vaccinating. My family member included. Fueled by a rise in fuckwits who produce nice looking, but misinformed websites, spouting shit about 'big pharma' and other conspiracy shit.

Now I have four cousins who have not been vaccinated against measles, and hence put other people's babies at risk of a fatal disease, simply because she does not understand the issues mentioned above. Despite me telling her the science, how herd immunity works, how vaccinations work etc. She still refuses to have her children vaccinated. All because of the research she's done on Google.

She doesn't have the skills to think critically. She's put her kids and others at risk. All because conspiracy sounds good, and almost impossible to convince people other-wise due to the circular nature of the arguments. So why isn't the media covering the story?

Because they are in on it, they want to keep you docile, obedient and in the dark. So why is the media covering the story? Because they are covering up for what really happened, pushing propaganda. I don't think he's fighting the tide, just a massive stream of my words bloody hell, even my right arm hurts from typing so much. (which sounds totally stupid typing this in the current situation in our world ) of course we don't have to agree on this Jordan, but you're not even entering a discussion here.

I give you facts (like for example the reporting of the 1st Gulf War and the image the mass media served us about the Greek crisis) to prove how the mass media is always trying to manipulate us, and you just ignore them saying 'we'll have to agree to disagree'. At least Steve gave me information about nuclear energy that I didn't know, making me change my mind about a few things and misconceptions I had about nuclear energy. All you said was basically: I know completely certain I know more about this than you, the statistics prove it's very safe, etc. You didn't even point out (like Steve did) that there are many different ways of nuclear energy, and that I was only talking about 1 way and basing my opinion on that and that only. How do you want people to change their minds about things if you don't give them better information when you say you have it?

You said so yourself that one of the main problems is bad education, and you complain about the internet as a mostly very shady resource, but then you gotta be prepared to help improve the situation when you have an easy chance, like you just had earlier on in this topic. I have no problem changing my mind about something. I still totally despise the nuclear power method I know, but at least now I know a tiny litte bit more about it and know there are many different methods. If you say: real life gets in the way, I don't want to waste my precious time replying to a never ending stream of words from my part.

No prob, I've got 2 kids myself. But how long must it have taken Steve to type that reply with the useful info about nuclear energy? I'm quite certain that 99,99% of all subsekt members can express their opinion with an average of 79465 words less per post than me!

(though I'll reduce that number to 73 words when we talk about fuckedupstar606) no hard feelings man.

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